Todd Conklin and Brent Sutton discuss the short-term future of safety thinking—covering the rise and fall of lean/TQM, how commodification can slow innovation, and why fear, FOMO and complacency shape which ideas stick. They explore leaders' responsibility, weak signals, and the need for small 'safe-to-fail' experiments to keep systems resilient.
Set in Santa Fe with lighthearted moments (including breakfast burritos and a cheese debate), the episode blends history, practical insight and a call to stay curious about evolving workplace complexity.
PAPod 596 - Incremental Safety Practices: Reductive vs. Inductive Safety
Todd Conklin reviews Erik Hollnagel’s new book "Incremental Safety Practices" an
PAPod 595 - Beyond Checklists: How Conversations Transform Safety Culture
Host Todd Conklin talks with Daniel Hummerdahl about his new book, An Invitation
PAPod 594 - Bridging Cultures: Safety, Migrant Workers, and the Heart of Agribusiness
Coming into this episode, Todd Conklin welcomes Al Thomson to discuss safety in
PAPod 593 - Young Voices, System Thinking: A Conversation on Safety with Mousa Yassin
Host Todd chats with Mousa Yassin about shifting safety culture from blaming ind
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