Todd Conklin and Brent Sutton discuss the short-term future of safety thinking—covering the rise and fall of lean/TQM, how commodification can slow innovation, and why fear, FOMO and complacency shape which ideas stick. They explore leaders' responsibility, weak signals, and the need for small 'safe-to-fail' experiments to keep systems resilient.
Set in Santa Fe with lighthearted moments (including breakfast burritos and a cheese debate), the episode blends history, practical insight and a call to stay curious about evolving workplace complexity.
PAPod 617 - OSHA’s New Playbook: From Enforcement to Partnership
In this episode Todd Conklin talks with David Keeling, Assistant Secretary of La
PAPod 615 - Leaders First: Why Safety Starts at the Top
Todd joins James Newman and Ken Madsen on a special excerpt from the Counter-Err
PAPod 614 - Accountability Labs: Learning to Have Each Other’s Back
Todd Conklin hosts Jen Long on the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast to introdu
PAPod 613 - Don't Shoot the Dog: A Song for Safer Workplaces
Host Todd talks with safety professional and singer-songwriter Toni Vere about h
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