Hi, everybody, and welcome to the Pre-Accident Podcast Safety Moment with your host, Todd Conklin. In this episode, Todd delves into the crucial difference between investigations and corrective actions in safety management.
Investigations are meant to learn from incidents, while corrective actions are the steps taken to fix the identified problems. Todd emphasizes the importance of understanding this distinction to ensure deeper systemic issues are addressed, rather than just surface-level fixes.
Join Todd as he explains how focusing on learning during investigations can lead to more effective corrective actions and ultimately, a safer work environment. Don't miss this insightful safety moment!
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1 00:00:00,017 --> 00:00:03,477 Okay, let's see how this thing works. I don't even know, but let's try it. 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:17,200 Music. 3 00:00:11,397 --> 00:00:11,757 Hi, 4 00:00:16,977 --> 00:00:19,177 everybody, and welcome to the Pre-Accident Podcast Safety Moment.
5 00:00:19,257 --> 00:00:22,677 I'm your loving and capable and constantly present host. 6 00:00:22,877 --> 00:00:25,517 My name's Todd Conklin. How are you today? I hope you're good.
7 00:00:25,517 --> 00:00:27,737 Here is our thought for today. 8 00:00:29,457 --> 00:00:33,097 Investigations learn and corrective actions fix. 9 00:00:33,717 --> 00:00:36,357 Let me say that again, because it sounds like I'm a little bit, 10 00:00:36,397 --> 00:00:41,637 I don't know, pandering or I don't know, kind of creepy sounding. I'll say it again.
11 00:00:42,317 --> 00:00:46,597 Investigations are learning events and corrective actions are actually where 12 00:00:46,597 --> 00:00:50,737 we fix the problem. And what's interesting about this as a safety moment for 13 00:00:50,737 --> 00:00:56,277 today is that I think our organizations have lost track of that little nuanced difference. 14 00:00:57,137 --> 00:01:01,197 Investigations don't fix. They're not there to fix.
They're not fixing things. 15 00:01:01,437 --> 00:01:06,077 They're learning things. So when you investigate or do event learning or do 16 00:01:06,077 --> 00:01:10,817 some kind of event review or do some kind of critique or whatever you call them where you work, 17 00:01:10,977 --> 00:01:17,337 that is really set up to do one thing, and that is understand how what happened 18 00:01:17,337 --> 00:01:18,997 or what nearly happened happened. 19 00:01:18,997 --> 00:01:22,237 Happened the actual corrective action process the 20 00:01:22,237 --> 00:01:24,977 action item process that's where 21 00:01:24,977 --> 00:01:27,777 we fix and that is a very discreetly different 22 00:01:27,777 --> 00:01:31,237 thing that is a product of the 23 00:01:31,237 --> 00:01:36,417 learning that is not the reason you investigate so when people say well we investigate 24 00:01:36,417 --> 00:01:42,077 to prevent reoccurrence no no we don't we investigate to learn our corrective 25 00:01:42,077 --> 00:01:46,997 actions prevent reoccurrence and that difference Although it may sound like 26 00:01:46,997 --> 00:01:49,757 I'm arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, 27 00:01:50,477 --> 00:01:54,777 I think is enormous because it manages the way we think about the investigation.
28 00:01:55,397 --> 00:02:01,277 When we do the investigation to fix, then we're going to look for the things we can fix and fix them, 29 00:02:01,437 --> 00:02:06,437 probably stopping really early at the first things that are compelling enough 30 00:02:06,437 --> 00:02:10,997 to actually fix and completely missing the fact that there are deeper systemic 31 00:02:10,997 --> 00:02:16,877 issues in virtually every single event you will ever have in your company. It's just how it works. 32 00:02:17,617 --> 00:02:22,097 It's never going to be the thing that caused the accident that fixes the problem. 33 00:02:22,577 --> 00:02:27,617 It's going to be the thing that caused the thing that caused the accident to fix the problem.
34 00:02:28,217 --> 00:02:31,997 And that is our safety moment. It's easy as pie. It's not a big one. 35 00:02:32,197 --> 00:02:34,497 But I want to remind you, it's a huge one.
36 00:02:35,377 --> 00:02:38,797 Investigations learn and corrective actions fix. 37 00:02:39,477 --> 00:02:42,877 Have a good day, you guys. Learn something new every single day. 38 00:02:42,917 --> 00:02:46,957 I hope you did today.
day. Have as much fun as you can possibly squeeze into work legally. 39 00:02:47,517 --> 00:02:50,117 And for goodness sakes, be safe. 40 00:02:51,120 --> 00:03:00,774 Music.
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