Recorded live at Meow Wolf in Santa Fe, this episode features a wide-ranging conversation between Todd and Andy Baker about learning, safety culture, and leadership influence.
They dig into HOP and related safety approaches, debate top-down versus middle-out change, discuss the importance of language and unlearning, and explore how to turn belief into practical skill and behavior.
The episode offers real-world insights on piloting change, engaging leaders and middle managers, and learning from others who have adapted these ideas in novel ways.
PAPod 574 - Margin for Safety: Lessons from 50 Years in the Cockpit
This episode explores human performance and aviation safety, contrasting airline
PAPod 573 - The Stability Trap: Why Safe Organizations Still Fail
Jay Allen interviews Todd Conklin about his new book, The Stability Trap, explor
PAPud 572 - The Stability Trap: Why Safety Success Can Lead to Failure
Host Todd introduces his new book, The Stability Trap, and shares a sneak peek e
PAPod 571 - Fail Fast, Learn Faster: A Conversation on Human Performance and Recovery
In this episode Todd Conklin joins Jowanza Joseph to explore modern safety think
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