PAPod 573 - The Stability Trap: Why Safe Organizations Still Fail
Episode 937
PreAccident Investigation Podcast
The Pre Accident Podcast is an ongoing discussion of Human Performance, Systems Safety, & Safety Culture.
Show Notes
Jay Allen interviews Todd Conklin about his new book, The Stability Trap, exploring why even safe, stable organizations can fail. They discuss the "drive to zero," complacency, pressures on middle management, wearables and data, and lessons from aviation and the pandemic.
The episode also covers how AI was used to reorganize the book’s ideas and help craft its ending, and offers practical reframes: treat safety as a capacity, see workers as system monitors, and retool systems to match capacity with risk. The book is available now.
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