Jay Allen interviews Todd Conklin about his new book, The Stability Trap, exploring why even safe, stable organizations can fail. They discuss the "drive to zero," complacency, pressures on middle management, wearables and data, and lessons from aviation and the pandemic.
The episode also covers how AI was used to reorganize the book’s ideas and help craft its ending, and offers practical reframes: treat safety as a capacity, see workers as system monitors, and retool systems to match capacity with risk. The book is available now.
PAPod 617 - OSHA’s New Playbook: From Enforcement to Partnership
In this episode Todd Conklin talks with David Keeling, Assistant Secretary of La
PAPod 615 - Leaders First: Why Safety Starts at the Top
Todd joins James Newman and Ken Madsen on a special excerpt from the Counter-Err
PAPod 614 - Accountability Labs: Learning to Have Each Other’s Back
Todd Conklin hosts Jen Long on the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast to introdu
PAPod 613 - Don't Shoot the Dog: A Song for Safer Workplaces
Host Todd talks with safety professional and singer-songwriter Toni Vere about h
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