Jay Allen interviews Todd Conklin about his new book, The Stability Trap, exploring why even safe, stable organizations can fail. They discuss the "drive to zero," complacency, pressures on middle management, wearables and data, and lessons from aviation and the pandemic.
The episode also covers how AI was used to reorganize the book’s ideas and help craft its ending, and offers practical reframes: treat safety as a capacity, see workers as system monitors, and retool systems to match capacity with risk. The book is available now.
PAPod 596 - Incremental Safety Practices: Reductive vs. Inductive Safety
Todd Conklin reviews Erik Hollnagel’s new book "Incremental Safety Practices" an
PAPod 595 - Beyond Checklists: How Conversations Transform Safety Culture
Host Todd Conklin talks with Daniel Hummerdahl about his new book, An Invitation
PAPod 594 - Bridging Cultures: Safety, Migrant Workers, and the Heart of Agribusiness
Coming into this episode, Todd Conklin welcomes Al Thomson to discuss safety in
PAPod 593 - Young Voices, System Thinking: A Conversation on Safety with Mousa Yassin
Host Todd chats with Mousa Yassin about shifting safety culture from blaming ind
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